Steve Mayeda

During my long lasting hobby of checking out various coaches and lifestyle trainers I’ve already wrote about Corey Wayne. Corey was directing himself towards a bit of  a healthy Red Pill and at the same time being aware of the whole MGTOW movement, but never really indulging in it and being accused of never proving to be with any girl (personally why he should share his private life with strangers?). Plenty of people find out that his methods are simply accurate and I respect his work towards celebrating healthy masculinity.

..then there’s this guy – Steve Mayeda. He’s openly admitting being in a long term relationship with two kids and an admirably cute wife. Of course, he posts pictures of his own family openly on varous social media and there are people hating him for this. You see the pattern? Once you’re more or less successful, the haters always come and try to put you down.

I must admit it, I really do like his balanced and mature content. Just as Corey Wayne admitted that he had a fucked up childhood with schizophrenic mother and some alcohol involved, so do Steve openly says that he had a drug addiction problem in the past and that he had done plenty of cheating in his older relationships. I’ve listened to a good bit of his podcasts and he raises a lot of good points. Of course, half of the MGTOWalready maturedcommunity of kids will shut down his message because he dears to say that he doesn’t fancy MGTOW. How dare he can have his own opinion! But this only proves the things he is saying about. I recommend you watch this video where he is talking about important topics – rape, consent, being sexual and also MGTOW and The Red Pill for a bit. It might open your eyes that there is more than one side to the same topic we talk about. Masculinity is complex. You might not agree with everything but if you consciously choose to limit yourself to just one worldview, you’re hurting yourself. 

 

There’s of course a small hook: his The Sexual Life package comes with a price: 2000 USD dollars. You can as well join his Men’s Development Group on Facebook which is free and consist mostly of a group of men coming from mixed backgrounds. Personally, I haven’t found there anything extremely useful. This is often the cause in a very moderated and somewhat censored groups. Why I use the word censored? Well, I should say moderated but is there a difference? 😉 If you’re a hard radical MGTOW you won’t have your voice heard over there. Same probably goes with The Red Pill. And I get it, it’s his own project so he sets up the rules.  But apart from that, his YouTube content is free. If I was to choose from RSD Tyler , Corey Wayne and Mayeda’s content at this moment I would probably went with Mayeda. However, there’s a nice twist to this story and you will find out about it after reading the whole article.

But back to the topic, being a man doesn’t mean we should limit ourselves to just one idea. This is why I’m slowly migrating away from pure MGTOW content here. During the last 2,5 years I’ve touched on PUAs, The Red Pill and MGTOW topics massively and frequently. Now, we will be moving straight into more clear masculinity topics. I believe that the best thing is to mix and match everything to suits your own personal needs. In life, there are no definite sets of data that mark your journey as ever finished. Believing that would lead to stagnation and that’s not what we want. At least not what I want.

I recently received an email from one of my readers who share my current view on the whole manosphere scene, so to say. MGTOW community has quickly become very closed and hermetic which is self-limiting in itself. Instead of development it causes stagnation. I believe that a true man would never limit himself because then what’s the difference from being a fanatic? Or a feminist? There is none. Sex and desire is a beautiful thing, women should not be hated. I believe that we can produce great things but only together, when our gender differences are being celebrated instead of forcefully put together under the “gender equality” bullshit. We are not equal, but we aren’t better or worse. We are just different.

Of course I will probably face a heavy backlash from the MGTOW community because I am saying this. They say they don’t hate women but they are lying. They do. And most of the people saying they are identifying themselves as MGTOWs are just inexperienced kids who never been in a serious relationship or “get laid” enough. They hide behind the MGTOW tag because they were hurt and they carry on their own trauma (maybe they had a shitty parents, or a toxic relationship with their own mother?) That’s a very bad approach. Any radical approach is usually very bad. It won’t lead them to happiness. Of course, there are exceptions but I am talking about the main current. I’m in my middle 30s. I don’t want to castrate myself and forcefully shut down my libido. Why would I? Sex is great. If you look at sex only from the side of women using you, you won’t ever be at peace with yourself. If you were hurt during bad relationship, or sex or whatever – you won’t cure and heal this trauma by shutting yourself out from sex, relationships with other people/women. It simply won’t work. It will just isolate you more. And no, this doesn’t mean I am recommending going into long term relationships with women – I don’t. I wonder how many of you already went into meltdown. See, how crazy and close-minded you are about this? Wake the fuck up. Right now! You are planning to be a monk until you’re 70 and your dick stops working? Really? Good luck. 

If I can get good sex and enjoy the company of women, all of the tension disappears and I simply enjoy myself being a man. Being not an alpha man, not a radical MGTOW, not a master Red Piller, not some sort of another weird label that only limits my expression but being a man. 

As for me, MGTOW was an important step during  my personal journey of discovering who I am myself and who I want to become. It was a step and not a final nail to my coffin. See the difference here? What I discovered was a man who don’t want to hate women, enjoy spending time with them, love having sex with them and a good laugh. I enjoy being at peace with myself and other human beings and I say no to hate and negativity towards the other gender. That doesn’t mean I will tolerate any breach of my own personal boundaries. ejaculating 3 times per day to internet porn with females in itBut how any modern male can have strong personal boundaries and talking about being a strong man yet at the same time is beyond me. So many of them need to just grow up and mature. Again – any radical approach is usually very bad. It might not feel like that at first, but then it will hit you. It will hit you when you will be lonely, surrounded by toxic emotions and feeling lost. We need more than just internet pseudo-friends who will support our twisted view on the world. And yes, there are more to being a male than just one way of living. Take this report of Mayeda’s receiving a birth of his own son. No, I don’t want kids. I don’t want a wife. But I still can appreciate his story and be open to the great beauty and mystery of life.

As Mayeda says:

“The social movements that are coming from damage, that are coming from people’s pain… the men’s movement, the women’s movement. You guys are the same fucking thing! You just coming from different angles but both of you depended on detachment and controlled definition of the others to empower yourselves. Traumatic bonding. It could be men coming together to talk shit about women or women coming together to talk shit about men. Or it can be people dysfunctionally coming together through sex.

Can’t really add anything to it. It sums it all up, perfectly. If your goal was to cure & heal yourself MGTOW will probably become just one step in a long journey. If your goal was to isolate yourself and spread hate, you are probably going to stay inside those already very isolated circles.

So far so good, right? Almost too good to be true. I was so close to admitting and going with the conclusion that Mayeda is the real deal here… however, however! Read this up gentlemen! I joined his free FB group under one of my alter egos so that I cannot be recognized as “this dude Datson Horrenbrand with unpopular opinions!” and made a random comment under some of other user’s post. He added a link depicting a typical men shaming story. I won’t go into the details, but a dude posted a hyperlink to an article fear mongering about the topic similar to the rape culture man-spreading (and all that craziness) asking what the members thought about it. Looked like a normal question. I replied that it looked to me like a typical click-bait article that only puts men in the bad light and certainly does not do anything good for the women either. Few hour later my post was deleted. No explanation, no nothing. If this is how his project works, I am out of it. I admire Mayeda’s message and in many parts I agree with it  however, I will never agree to censorship like this on any sort of social media. This is exactly what killed Mgtow.co forum. If I am not allowed to voice my thoughts, what’s the whole point of the “development”? It becomes an isolated group just like MGTOWs or TRP or PUAs are. Okay, maybe they don’t want to stir unnecessary discussions. Maybe they only want “already matured” individuals that are okay with any sort of content. Bear in mind that after reading this group plenty of men felt to me like typical manginas/blue-pillers and no, I won’t drop these labels Mayeda… they are real and useful. And my comment wasn’t radical. I wasn’t bragging about MGTOW or anything. Or hating women in it.

After a short research I’ve found out that the guy posting that link was added by another dude, who was added to the group by Steve Mayeda himself. That another dude is an admin there. So the whole puzzle is solved for me. Another FB admin on a power trip unfairly covering ass of his colleague.

It looks like a little circle of mutual admiration. And don’t forget, if you still need some development as a man and you think that other men can teach you something, you are also willing to pay 2k USD to join Mayeda’s inner circle on The Sexual Life platform/community. As of now, Corey Wayne has also a nice and sensible stuff that has much more views and is not asking for such a huge amount of money for his paid content/coaching. Remember that always when you will feel “not complete” there will be people trying to sell you stuff. Mayeda often brags how he slept with hundreds of women. I doubt it. Why create such unrealistic stories? It just sounds not true. And it’s stupid because he is trying to sell much more worthy content.

Aha! One more thing – final nail to his coffin. One other person posted a picture telling a story about someone who was divorce-raped. “Wanted to get some opinions on this. I couldn’t imagine what I would do in this situation, but from the looks of what’s written here and based on current political climate, it doesn’t look like there’s much a man can do once it’s in motion. One has to get as skilled in early detection and disassociation of such people, it seems…” he wrote under the pic. Mayeda quickly responded So if you’re passionate about an issue like this 1) Help that person 2) Work on changing the laws or the court systems 3) Don’t think complaining or gossiping is changing anything”. He also explained why he believes this is the right way. I won’t cite the whole answer but just a short point from me: I don’t think this is complaining or gossiping. This is spreading the truth about what some women can do to you. Just my five cents on this.

From what he wrote it looks like Mayeda’s was divorce-raped himself. He replied how he “sucked it up”, paid 50k in legal fees, went to jail, have not been able to see his kids for 5 years… pretty tough shit. He said that “one should learn how to differentiate crazy people from non-crazy people, don’t think everybody is crazy, don’t make it a cause, accept full responsibility – for instance at all points in my life something bad happened, it was usually because I put myself in the situation, don’t blame people, KNOW THAT LIFE WILL FUCK YOU…When you GET FUCKED move on; So I know a lot of happy people who are successful with money and business and they have all been screwed and write it off and move on…then make money and life happen.  Then I know people who get screwed and complain about it and they are never successful in anyway. ”  

And I agree with that! But at least in my opinion he should know better that not every man is aware about divorce-rape and not talking about such sad news causes men even more harm than pretending nothing bad is happening. 

At this point I’ve left Mayeda’s free group being disappointed from the double standards that are present there – I remember when he stated in one of his videos how he doesn’t agree with the typical description how men should be “alpha” and so on, yet a friend of a friend (the one I replied to with the post that was deleted later) posted about a well-known article about descriptions of various types of men- from Beta, to Alpha. Guess what? It wasn’t deleted. So yeah, mixed conclusions. Double standards and censorship connected with favoring your own circle of people? Fuck that shit. What’s the difference between this and RSD Tyler who is also asking for huge amount of money to sell you false hopes. I don’t see any. Sad, because Mayeda’s content has already earned a place in my heart. And by the way, I am always a bit skeptical about a dude who is married with kids talking about “hundreds and hundreds of sexual lays, hook-ups, orgies and what-not”… I don’t know… maybe he’s right, maybe not. But for sure he didn’t had hundreds of them. That number is just not rational. So why lie? Does lie sell? Maybe it does.

Well, we are all humans and it seems to me that I no longer want to join any of the other men’s circles. I haven’t found any that I could identify with in 100%. You might already sense what this means. Instead, as yet another side project (separate from RedMaleHummingbird), I am slowly creating my own.

Moving forward.

Across the past two years this website gained a pretty significant audience – at the moment of writing this article Red Male Hummingbird has 140377 views. That is a huge number especially if you take into consideration almost no promotion or advertising. I tend to be very open and honest about stuff like this so I can admit that I don’t want to lose that audience. Who would want it? It’s fun. And it makes this whole project much more pleasant. However, above everything I need to remain true to myself. As you could notice the usual number of articles during recent two months went down a bit. There was a reason behind it and until now I didn’t had a good way to put it into words.

But here it goes: The formula of this blog as it is right now- dedicated purely towards MGTOW/TRP– no longer serves me.

Stardusk/Thinking-Ape in his recent piece is talking about a very similar topic. I will cite a few important comments/points from it (from random people) and I recommend you to watch it, too:

Stardusk – Das Reinheitsgebot, Beer and the Nature of Reality

Arcesious 2 weeks ago
I learned a lot from MGTOW. But at this point I no longer wish to identify with the label. I don’t want to tie myself down to any way of thinking so much so that I potentially blind myself. At the moment I still don’t wish to pursue a relationship or having children, but I want to keep an open mind. At some point I may try it out as an experiment. The only constant for me ‘ideologically’ seems to be a mix of empiricism and rationalism respectively, depending on which provides the most utility to investigating something.

Trevor Cormier
Even if all the bad legality was reformed you know by now that you’re are going to be involved an unequal relationship with diminishing returns over time. Some guys are willing to accept that. From the couples I’ve seen, the guy finds his life inevitably bogged down in banality, endless obligation and shots to his dignity from time to time.?

Arcesious
I saw what was happening to all the men around me and due to a questioning nature and introverted/solitary personality found MGTOW circles. After that I had a much broader idea of what was going on. I’ve heard countless horror stories and subsequent success stories and I’ve listened to/read content from all over the loose affiliations that make up the ‘MGTOW-sphere’. I know it inside and out, and was even active in a couple places dedicated to discussing the topic for some time. Not going to forget one iota of it or ignore the implications. I’m probably still going to keep ‘going my own way’ all but in name, it’s just out of principle that I want to stay open to experience/new information.?

realverdade 2 weeks ago
Arcesious more and more I notice that men who question mgtow weren’t significantly scarred by women. It might have some correlation and my assumption is that one can only go mgtow if they have battle scars.?

Arcesious 2 weeks ago
Heh, I’m just glad no one made any dumb comments like ‘you were never a real mgtow’, ‘you haven’t internalized the redpill about hypergamy’, or ‘oh look another simp going back to the plantation’. I just don’t believe anything should or can be above interrogation. I’ve had experiences of my own that colored my perception and one in particular that was actually all on me and my own youthful naivety, but I wouldn’t call them significant enough to qualify as having been ‘burned’.?

..and so on. First of all I believe that those “battle scars” which were mentioned above are necessary – not for you going MGTOW but just for your own development as a man. I love labels but at the same time I hate them. Why? They start to limit you at some point. Like “Oh, you’re enjoying the company of women? You’re no longer MGTOW!” (just to give one silly example) My journey went through various experiences with women in short long and casual relationships over more than 30 years of my life and past that. I travelled from the usual Blue Pilled monkey through The Red Pill and finally MGTOW. Every step on my journey had a somewhat clear label and a significant meaning.

Would you still be “MGTOW” even when you have a good relationships with women are popular and enjoying a lot of sex on a regular basis? Probably. But I have a feeling that this isn’t that common across men from most of the forums dedicated to MGTOW I’ve encountered during my experience in making of the RedMaleHummingbird. What you concentrate on tends to grow. There is a lot of hate towards women across all those forums (and even in older articles here, on this blog). And that’s something I really don’t want in my life anymore. It’s not even about hate towards women. It’s about hate itself. Negative energy. Pessimism. Lack of direction. Life is too short to indulge in emotions like that. Hate leads nowhere. At least not-where-I-want-to-be.

My own articles about healthy living and motivation were the least popular. The ones about sex, call-girls and how women are bad/evil/stupid were the biggest hits. Isn’t that interesting? At one point it hit me: I no longer feel as being caught up by those negative feelings/emotions and I don’t want to experience them again and again like some twisted fetish yet the community somewhat expects this from me. That’s when I stopped writing for a while. There’s no fun when you need to write something that doesn’t matter for you anymore just to get another 1k visitors. At least not for free. 😉

Ok, women are this and that. Briffault’s Law. Yeah, I get it. I’ve been there. I wrote about it many times. Anger phase. That’s in my past. But one needs to ask himself: what’s next? Of course there’s no turning back. The only way leads forward. And what’s in there?

I won’t be having kids, getting married or boring my ass out in LTR, don’t worry. That didn’t changed. Maybe it will when I’m in my 50s? Who knows. Nobody knows the future. But I don’t think so. I think I will try to write about other topics that interest me, without paying much attention to the number of visitors here. Something that might not even be connected with women at all. We shall see.

I must move on. Being stuck in one place is just stagnation. And stagnation is like mud – various unpleasant things start sticking into you.

See you next time.

The Four Male Archetypes

Blurbs on Humanity

The human race will go where the majority of the population goes. What most people do not realize is that everything that makes up our world just happened. TV, cars, refrigerators, air conditioning, indoor plumbing, toilets, washing machines, microwaves, computers, etc. have all just appeared in the last few generations, most things in just the last generation. Americans could legally own people as slaves just one-hundred and fifty years ago. Women could not own property, sign a legal contract, or vote until the 1920s, and women did not have equal rights under the law until the 1960s.

Tonight when you are lying in bed in the dark, imagine you are laying on the ground in pitch darkness, with no walls and doors, and thousands of insects and other strange creatures are out in the dark making loud noises. Imagine there are predators many times your size, with large fangs and claws, that can see in the dark and smell where you are sleeping. You were there. Beasts like the saber tooth tiger lived in the same places we lived up until about ten thousand years ago, and they were just one of many creatures that would kill and eat us alive. Remember, this is the way it was for 90% of our history.

Fire: We could not make a fire up until about forty thousand years ago. That means for about one-hundred and sixty thousand years, we had to go to sleep without a fire burning. For most of the time we lived on earth, we feared the night.

Roller-coaster: The pain of the past was balanced, but that does not make it good. When you won a battle or fight to the death or were successful killing an animal during a hunt, it was extremely pleasurable, because it meant survival. This is why men still feel good when we kill something. You were much more aware of the present, so life was much more fulfilling than it is now.

(“Truth Contest“)

Smiles

You smile = she senses your positive energy and likes you, too. Nope! You smile = she knows you’re vulnerable and amused by her.

In reality it’s so fucked up that you can’t even smile to the girl you like because then she’ll see you as less valuable because she’ll know you are being influenced by her. And she will go to the guy who is less affected by her. So you have to contain your smile and let her come to you intrigued by the fact that you are not moved even by an inch by her sexuality/body/looks etc. If she comes, that’s fine. If she does not – that’s also fine. That’s exactly the definition of wanting someone but not being needy. And I’m ok with that. But I’m not ok with not being able to smile. That’s just stupid.


The Male Archetypes in their Fullness

Warrior

Do something that scares you
Be more decisive
Quit seeking exits
Find your core values
Have a plan and purpose
Strengthen your resilience
Find out who you are loyal to
Establish and live via non-negotiable terms
Compete
Strengthen your discipline via habits and routine
Adopt a minimilist attitude
Take up a physical discipline e.g. martial arts

 

Magician

Commit to life long learning
Meditate
create more, consume less
work with your hands
take part in rites of passage
find a mentor
become a mentor
create a sangha
create a sacred space

King

Leave a legacy
Develop practical wisdom
Become a mentor
Find a mentor
Develop the virtue of order
Break away from you mother
Develop traits of true leadership
Establish your core values
Establish your core values
Develop a life plan
protect the sanctity of your ideas
become decisive
Avoid corruption
Live with integrity

Lover

Cultivate the virture of moderation
become fully present
find the centre of your bliss
Be spontaneous
work out what your lover needs

Which one depicts you? Of course, all four of them! Let that sink for a while.

What are the female archetypes? Well, nobody can decide. They say that it should be something like this:

Maiden/Virgin

Mother

Enchantress/Wild Woman/Lover

Queen/Wise Woman

PUA Scam

PUA Scam

Nowadays we have three major paths for men – PUA, The Red Pill and MGTOW.

RSD Tyler/Julien/Todd and the rest of their crew are a nicely cut fake scam artists. (just google “RSD faking infields” and do some research if their method works and check articles like this one ) If you ever tried their methods, you would knew what I’m saying. The only possibility of a quick make out exist if the girl is already after at least few drinks. And usually after few too many! Same with pulls. I don’t know about you, but I don’t find a lot of fun in sleeping with stinking smelly drunkards especially as I don’t drink at all anymore. So, the only way is the casual way. It takes hours out of your evening. It might be faster if you’re still in your 20s and partying in really big cities with like minded people.

If you keep stalking girls that are out just to be a little crazy and to have fun, you’d be blown out many, many times. From time to time you will get results but it’s just a numbers game. It’s not due to your “game” or some magic PUA skills. You will waste time, effort, money and your health – you can as well go to the good quality escort. You’ll get a similar dopamine rush before during and after. At least you can have better pre selection. 😉 Besides, go on and try to go out 3-4 times per week when having a normal day job and being in your middle 30s. It’s tiring. It’s pointless. It’s not that much of a fun, especially if you’re not a heavily extroverted person. And even if you are? I remember watching one video when RSD Tyler/Owen jokingly says that their business model was basically to outline the basics and then complicate them, and keep doing it so at the end the onion has so many layers that nobody knows what’s going on anymore. It works for clueless men who come to their seminars. 2k per one + millions of views on YT + thousands of dollars for their learning programs made them very rich indeed. Remember that sex won’t make you happy if your life is empty. If your life is empty, no woman would want to join your party, either. Owen likes to say that you should “ignore the negative energy” coming from a girl or better, ignore the negativity altogether. And stop listening to the voice in your head. Of course I agree that we shouldn’t overthink stuff too much, but saying that one should ignore your own intuitive voice is just stupid. After many years I’ve finally learnt how to get in touch with my own intuition and I won’t be dropping it anytime soon. Owen has a lot of good ideas that can be applied to a daily life, though. I don’t try to undermine that. Also he certainly posses a very magnetic persona – probably due to some personality issues. He confirmed this himself many times, by the way. Don’t forget that most people out there are just trying to sell you something and make themselves rich. The main point is that you don’t need their magic pills.

After three years…

Radical MGTOW version/way is, well, too radical… I am not impotent, I am not afraid of women, I don’t hate them, they like me and I like them. I have high sexual drive. I love sex and I love women who love sex. I won’t be pretending that’s not the case. We live in a very connected world and shutting myself away from any contact with the opposite gender doesn’t work for me. I don’t need to do this nor I want to do this, either.

So, what’s left? Well, the classical The Red Pill theory. After deep research of both PUA and MGTOW ways, I am going more towards TRP tradition now. And I must admit that Corey Wayne is still portraying the most balanced version of who I am becoming/want to become. His teachings lie somewhere between classical PUA, TRP and MGTOW. With a strong nudge towards TRP side that encourages short/medium term relationships but without radical absurdities of PUAs and monk-mode-MGTOWs.

Women are just women. We won’t change them. And they won’t change us. They are still better placed than us, because they can choose between beta “mangina” providers and alpha “IDGAF” fucks (or just between men believing in LTRs/Love/Kids/Marriage and ones that no longer believe in that bullshit) and that’s about it. We don’t have much choice. 😉 I don’t mind. I buy it. Life is short. Soon, all of us will be dead.

Life is  full of suffering. Yet, life is so beautiful. 

Forge through it. Find your own way.

Enjoy it while you can.

Love =/= Control?

Ultimately, we are all alone. And that’s fine.

And love is a scam. I am not talking about the universal cosmic love. That is something of far wider perspective. But our earthly, human love? It’s a scam. Biological imperative crafted by nature to maintain the continuity of human species.

We are being told that in order to love truly you need to love freely. To give freedom to the person that we love. But yet, at some another level, love also means control. And control means to worry. And you worry to lose someone you love because you care about them. And you can lose a person in many different ways. The feeling that a father has when his daughter slips into drug addiction? That hopeless realization that nothing can be done in order to save her? Yet, he tries to do it nevertheless. And only when he realizes there’s truly nothing he can do to help her, he quits. And gives up. It’s a tremendous sadness mixed with sorrow and grief. This is how I feel now. One of the people that were close to me, deliberately and stubbornly chooses the wrong path for herself. And just like in those books we’ve been told to never read, a small part of myself dies within. This is because a part of myself, of my heart, was living inside of her. And nothing can be done. After so many years of hard work and hope that one can recognize and change the bad habits. You can only save yourself. Other people don’t give a fuck about you or your hope to help them. They don’t want to be saved.

“I am happy only when I am unhappy”

Apparently a parent can never give up and leave his own child. Maybe some of them can. Maybe they do it only on the surface but deep down nothing is being resolved, and there’s no peace at heart. Ever. Maybe sometimes life throws us towards similar experiences, so that we can gain knowledge and recognize patterns.

But after every rainfall, there’s another breakthrough of clear weather. So, on one side I am asking myself “what the hell I am still doing here?” but on the other I know that soon everything will change for the better. For myself. Only for myself.

gergtgr

Mgtow.Co not coming back?

Over 100k! 

Welcome everyone. We’ve almost hit our 200 likes on our FB profile. If you consider controversial topics here that are often bordering on hate speech and misogyny, this is a nice achievement. In reality, we only exploit freedom of speech. Gladly, we can still have it around here. Also, we’ve hit over 63k visitors last year. Plus 58k from 2015, that makes exactly 96,391 people reading R.M.H. in the last two years. And when I add almost 10k that have already been here in 2017, we can proudly announce that 105,610 people were here since the launch. That’s beyond awesome. Thank you all. And btw, this is the 154 article published on Red Male Hummingbird. Some of them were better than others, but it’s nonetheless a huge amount.

100k

Fem Val

Female validation does nothing for me. You get a pat on the back if you do well. Literally. They come over, talk with you (expect to be entertained, so you joke back and forth and present masculine energy so that they can get their ‘ginas wet&tingle) and then they pat you on the back when going away. Or on a shoulder. This way they ‘claim‘ that they “approve” you and that other females should be jealous because you present some sort of value to the ones that “patted” you on the back. It’s really not about you. It’s about females showing other females how much fun they are getting out of you and how their value goes up because they are being around a real man. It’s phony and shallow. I mean I can get how it can be something valuable for some specific types of extroverted men looking for female validation, but somehow it does nothing for me. Fucking nothing. It’s just a burden. Am I ill, or what? Hahah.

I mean yeah, it feels nice but for me it’s just “I don’t care, leave me alone”. It only makes the whole environment expecting me to play this game harder and receive even more “pat-backs”. There’s no end to this! And one needs to spend 8 hours every day, 5 days per week at work. Social validation is so empty. Sigh.

mgtow
Mgtow.Co is down

For me personally it’s a huge disappointment. It was a good community. To kill it just like that without warning is a small insult. And a very sad story. Well, we will prevail anyway. Not the best move if you ask me. However, I do understand Alexander and his own reasons. But I always thought that MGTOW and male brotherhood is above politics.
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Random MGTOW Blurbs
A man strives to get direct mastery over things either by understanding them or by compulsion. But a woman is always and everywhere driven to indirect mastery, namely through a man; all her direct mastery being limited to him alone. Therefore it lies in woman’s nature to look upon everything only as a means for winning man, and her interest in anything else is always a simulated one, a mere roundabout way to gain her ends, consisting of coquetry and pretense.” — Arthur Schopenhauer, On Women

“The truths uncovered in this essay and many others is why I USE women for entertainment purposes only! They perform (sex, feminine company) or they are history.”

“I don’t love idealistically anymore but opportunistically like they do, the shattered remains of pedestals past serve only to remind me of the limited value that they bring to the relationship table.

“I have embraced male hypergamy and I’m always looking for an upgrade, I’ve even started shit testing THEM just for my amusement, I enjoy taking their hamsters for a ride.

They only play the “sexual retirement” card with betas, if she sees you as Alpha and her best option she will do whatever it takes to keep you around.

I don’t feel bad for using women this way because as much as we objectify them for their sexual allure, they objectify us for our utility value.

Even if she sees you as a “hawt” it’s still all about HER you are a reflection of her value, on display to her peers to affirm her position in the group.
You are still a utility even if If you achieve Alpha fucks status, they lack empathy and the ability to truly love anyone except maybe “their” children.

It’s not an accident that society conflates men’s servitude with qualities of adulthood – it’s the design.

As such, women begin to get nervous that their future provisioning and security are their own responsibility.”

From “Black Dragon Blog
Playdontpay comment from Rational Male blog:

“When men’s ambitions are centered on satisfying themselves and not about developing equity that’s useful to women, that’s when those men (and those who would encourage it) are shamed for not being an adult. They are shamed for not manning up or growing up to meet the needs of women and thus not living up to “adult responsibilities”.”
“Men have evolved to assess sexual availability of women and evaluate their fitness in the span of moments. This was a necessary evolutionary adaptation in the past in that it served men well to breed efficiently and evacuate quickly should a rival or monogamously paired man be in the vicinity to mate guard with violence. And this adaptation is also the result of women’s sexual strategy and predilection for making cuckolds of men.”

“This submission is a refutation of the title stated above and understanding the statement.
A post was recently made about how women are only fit to breed and provide sex ,and the title of this post was stated in the comment section. I find this very disturbing and disappointing that someone commenting on this sub would just make such a statement without any evidence or support.

The reasons why we don’t “treat everyone like human beings” are the reasons we found MGTOW. Treating everyone like human beings means treating everyone with respect regardless of age or gender. Furthermore, treating everyone with respect means having expectations that humans are inherently “good” or maybe “ok”; ie assuming they meet standards of decency and honor.

This gentleman also claims that he has female friends and they are “good” people(paraphrasing). Yes, women can be “good” to you as long as they are getting something in return;this also apply to some men. These kind of people only associate with people who can give them something of value at the very moment, once the value is gone, so are they(Women outweigh men in this). However, this is where men shine. Men will associate themselves with whomever they choose, regardless of what the individual brings to the table.”

“I am not dictating how one should live their life,This is just something I am placing on the table.From my little experiences and observations, the last thing you want to do as a MGTOW, as a man, is “treat everyone the same”, lest you’d be disappointing.”

Again “Black Dragon Blog“:

“Goals work. Affirmations work. Attitude works. Self talk works. Even when these things are negative. If you start believing and talking about how you’re going to be successful in life, then guess what? You’ll very likely be successful. If you start believing and talking that you’re going to die soon, then guess what?

Yeah. This stuff works both ways.

This is why you need to be very, very careful about what you believe, what you say, what you assume, and what you act on. When you say something negative about yourself, when you think something negative about yourself, it has real-world, external consequences to your life. Bad ones.

The problem is that you can’t see these consequences immediately. They take time to manifest. If you stab your own leg with a fork, you will see and feel immediate and terrible consequences. Therefore, I have a feeling you probably won’t do that.

But if you walk around thinking or saying “Women don’t like me” or “I’m ugly” or “I’m too short” or “I’m not good at making money” or “I’m a wimp” or “I’m a beta” or “I have oneitis” or “Women only like muscular guys” or “I can’t do that”, the negative consequences are just as real as stabbing yourself with a fork, except you can’t see them immediately. They take months or years to manifest, but trust me, they’ll manifest just the same.

Because nothing bad happens to you immediately, I have a feeling you’re believing or saying something negative about yourself right now. And if you are, you’re just as insane as the guy who stabs himself in the leg with a fork.”

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Who the fuck would even touch this whale? And yet, women are lucky. Being with a fat woman is a fetish of so many men…

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Most of the girls were fat at least few times in their lives. You think from where they got stretch marks on their bellies, asses and legs? It is not some mystery disease that happens only to women.

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It happens because they didn’t care about themselves. It happens because they can get away with it. It happens because they are encouraged to not care about themselves.  It happens because they are still desired no matter how bad they look. Because they are lazy and careless.

 

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It happens because ugly whales like this can still get a string of males willing to serve them. Who the fuck would ever want to date such unattractive person? She’s HB4 at best.

During middle ages, she would be washing toilets. Nowadays, she’s some sort of social media star.

World has gone mad.